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Feb 23, 2023

We deconstruct trauma by telling stories. In this episode—another conversation with Brandon’s cousin, Dr. Alex Gee—the story of their black and white family is told in greater detail. But this episode is not just about race; it’s about we connect, how we tell hard stories, how we be human with each other, and how...


Feb 9, 2023

In our first interview, Brandon, a white man, sits down with Dr. Alex Gee, his black cousin, to discuss family, race, trauma, and what “woke” actually means. Because they have both been pastors (in Alex’s case, still is a pastor), their conversation culminates in a discussion of good/bad theology and the reality...